My Response to

Published: 20 November 2023
on channel: Real Atheology
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A few weeks ago, Gavin Ortlund ( @TruthUnites ) released a video exploring the argument from divine hiddenness and giving several objections to it. While I appreciated Gavin's wrestling with the argument, I did not think his objections are successful. This video seeks to respond to those objections by clarifying aspects of Schellenberg's reasoning.

Gavin's video:    • Divine Hiddenness: My Response to Ale...  


00:00 - Opening Comments
01:36 - Gavin's Opening Comments

03:20 - THESIS ONE
04:53 - Humility and its implications
05:51 - Premise one: love and its implications
07:14 - A personal relationship
08:09 - openness
09:00 - responding to THESIS ONE

10:20 - THESIS TWO
11:26 - Defining 'nonresistant nonbelief'
12:33 - The causal component
13:24 - A categorical denial of NRNB?
14:10 - Self report testimony as evidence
15:53 - Ancient Nonbelief
17:22 - A clarification
18:20 - Schellenberg in context
19:03 - God & goodness
20:24 - Methods of ensuring belief
22:44 - Beliefless relationship
23:38 - Personal relationship

24:44 - THESIS THREE
25:32 - Two reasons
25:52 - Rephrasing the objection
26:36 - Hiddenness is Good for us
27:49 - Why that cannot be the case
28:41 - Incompatible with divine love
29:11 - Hiddenness is not required for character growth
29:46 - Alternate way to achieve these goods
30:17 - Belief in God - vs - experiencing God's presence

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