#199
Whenever the marketing platform Klaviyo is hiring, says CEO Andrew Bialecki, “we sort of don't care so much what skills you have.” Instead, the company looks for “high slope” individuals who are curious and able to continually learn new things. “A big turnoff for me is [when] somebody says, ‘Oh, well, I was never good at that when I was growing up,’” Andrew explains. “You know, ‘I'm not a good writer’ or ‘I'm not good with numbers.’ And it's like, well, OK, but anybody can learn anything.”
In this episode, Andrew and Joubin discuss WeCrashed, Paul Graham, vertical integration, automating sales, Ed Hallen, The Talent Code by Daniel Coyle, child prodigies, interview questions, public speaking and decompression, taking ownership, hiring engineers, burnout, and productivity habits.
Chapters:
00:51 Klaviyo's office
02:36 Attention to detail
06:32 Big decisions
12:23 What Klaviyo does
14:50 Its 2023 IPO
20:35 The founding story
25:06 Nature or nurture?
28:47 Science and hockey
31:02 Hiring for slope
33:57 Extroversion
37:00 Culture as product
39:53 Owning your success
46:24 “The algorithms of humanity”
50:55 Why Andrew runs
52:35 Sports psychology for startups
55:34 Richard Feynman
58:27 Who Klaviyo is hiring
59:20 What “grit” means to Andrew
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