Who Will Be the Subject: Challenges for Ukraine and the World. Arestovych, Datsyuk, Romanenko
This conversation between Oleksiy Arestovych, Yuriy Romanenko, and Serhiy Datsyuk discusses tough questions about subjectivity in politics, especially in the context of Ukraine. The participants analyze how subjects are formed and disappear, as well as the role of leaders in this process. The challenges Ukraine faces and the need for a strategic approach to politics are discussed. Key aspects of political ontology and metapositions are also discussed, as well as historical examples, such as the Bolsheviks, who were able to outplay their competitors thanks to their ontological picture of the world. In addition, the paths to power in Ukraine, political projects, and the people's readiness for change are discussed.
In the conversation, Oleksiy Arestovych, Romanenko, and Datsyuk discuss various scenarios for the future of Ukraine, including possible political and social changes. The need for mobility in decision-making and the formation of a new elite capable of adapting to changing conditions are mentioned. Examples of successful changes in other countries and opportunities for Ukraine in the future are also considered. The topics of unity, support, faith in change and inspiration are discussed, as well as the importance of negative experiences and crises in creating new opportunities. It talks about how people can unite and act when they see an opportunity for change, and how crises can become catalysts for systemic change
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Timecodes:
➤ 00:00 YUR: the nature of subjectivity on the example of Syria. Appearance, disappearance, driving force, who is behind it and how to become a subject?
➤ 03:08 SD: "the throne is vacant" in the USA, Russia, Ukraine, the Middle East, etc. On the brink of destruction: what is happening and what can be changed or done before January 20?
➤ 10:00 SD: Ukraine's reflection before defeat.
➤ 11:00 YR, SD: the leadership of the Second Ukrainian Republic cannot agree on the path to the grand final.
➤ 13:30 AA: definition of the Subject, its project, ontology of the project. Examples of subjectivity in Turkey, Israel, Azerbaijan. Lack of projectivity in Ukraine.
➤ 19:00 SD, AA: pre-project analytics. Institutions of thinking for the subjects. How the state of Ukraine works.
➤ 22:00 Replacement of the leadership of the state.
➤ 25:05 AA: The Ukraine project is irrelevant for Trump. What to do?
➤ 26:50 SD, AA: the game is not within Ukraine, but global. It's about personalities: Vance is doing the work for Ukraine. Elections in Ukraine soon?
➤ 30:18 YR: who will give power to the smart ones? An example of the Bolsheviks.
➤ 32:37 AA: Arestovych was heard by many more subjects than it seems.
➤ 34:00 SD, AA: the likelihood of an armed uprising in Ukraine. The nationalist project will not be supported by the West. Ukraine needs a real project - healthy centrism with a slight right-wing bias. Are Ukrainians ready for devastating changes in the spring of 2025?
➤ 38:48 YR: how to get Ukrainians to support Arestovych? Russian and Ukrainian projects of self-deception.
➤ 40:05 SD, YR: the EU and NATO are Ukraine's self-deception. 5 possible scenarios for Ukraine.
➤ 47:40 SD, AA: if black swans fly in the spring, policy will need to be changed often. Who is capable of doing this in Ukraine?
➤ 50:00 SD, YR: the subjectivization of the Ukrainian parliament is a good trend. The hamster elite of Ukraine.
➤ 54:22 AA, SD: where to find new personnel in Ukraine? The main thing is to see that things can be different...
➤ 58:00 YR, SD: they already believed Zelensky...
➤ 01:03:00 AA: the whole country can be stupid for 33 years, and then everything can change in a short time.
➤ 01:05:30 YR, SD: crisis creates new opportunities. Negative experience and faith in the best are part of subjectivity.
➤ 01:08:50 AA: the lesson of 33 years of war with ourselves is that non-projects are not capable of anything and will not survive. No project - no measure of things. The one who has waited for his time can radically change everything.
➤ 01:16:50 AA: who to believe and what options do Ukrainians have in the elections?
➤ 01:18:00 Ukrainian military personnel are gathering.
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